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Simply an issue of semantics

By Alta Mayhugh
Staff writer
Published/Last Modified on Saturday, July 4, 2009 9:02 PM CDT


Some people have scoffed when it’s been said a sales tax for the Williston park district is not a new tax.

Williston Park Board members have described it as such because if it is implemented, it wouldn’t be any more than what people are paying now in the city for sales tax. The park district sales tax would replace the Williston Public School District 1 sales tax when the district tax ends.

“It’s an issue of semantics,” said Larry Grondahl, park board president.

“It’s at 7.5 percent, and if we pass it, it will still be 7.5 percent...if it went to 8.5 percent, that’s a new tax,” Grondahl said.

Williston Parks and Recreation Director Darin Krueger agreed. A cheeseburger at McDonald’s is $1.07 with tax, and it would still be that price with a park district sales tax, Krueger said. For several months, the park board has tossed around the idea of having a sales tax to generate more money for much-needed projects at the Raymond Family Community Center, the golf course, Eckert Youth Pool, ball fields and parks that have been put on hold because there isn’t enough money.

Projects at the Raymond Center include siding, upgrading exercise equipment and the concessions area and skate park upgrades at a cost of $1,635,000. Then there’s driving range improvements, clubhouse repairs and more cart storage, with those projects totaling $901,000. Park improvements that include renovating bathrooms, playground surfacing, irrigation and fencing, and upgrading locker rooms, lifeguard stands and the filtration system at Eckert Youth Pool all total $2,279,000.

There’s not enough money in the park district budget to complete their projects. For the 2009 budget, the park district is to receive $1,616,056.90, which includes revenue and $963,208.58 from its property tax mill levy.

If the sales tax is implemented, the park district plans to completely, or partially, drop its mill levy. Currently, park district residents pay 8.5 percent of their property taxes to the park district.

That would go down to about 3.5 or 4 percent, or it’d be completely gone, Grondahl said. Park Board officials are considering keeping the pension, social security, special assessments, construction and recreation levies because they have been advised by their attorney these levies may be difficult to get back if the sales tax didn’t pass, he said.

“The goal is to drop the entire levy,” Grondahl said.

If the park district kept the five levies, the total budget would go from $2.2 million to $3.3 million, with $400,000 still set aside for the matching grant fund.

Through the sales tax, the park district would receive about $2.2 million a year, said Grondahl.

In a break down of how the tax revenue would be used, $1.3 million would go to operations, $250,000 would be used for projects, $150,000 would be used for equipment, $100,000 would be saved in reserves and $400,000 would be used as a 50-50 matching grant fund.

Grondahl and Krueger are excited about the possibility of a matching grant fund. With this, if an entity such as Williston High School or a nearby community needed to upgrade its park, the Williston park district would provide half the cost of the project.

Park district officials believe it’s important for people in outlying communities to know about this, as well as Williston residents, because people who shop in Williston pay the sales tax.

“Obviously, they’re paying for this, too,” Grondahl said.

The park district would like the sales tax to be on the ballot in time for the June 2010 election. In an effort to move forward, there are plans to have a committee put together by July that is to study the sales tax.

The committee is to consist of community members, perhaps some people from the Friends of Parks and Recreation organization, Krueger said.

There are also plans for public forums, as Grondahl and Krueger said they are willing to travel to talk to groups about the sales tax. If anyone is interested in joining the committee, or has questions or concerns about the sales tax, they are encouraged to call Krueger at 577-5141.
 

Comments

    Hockey Mom wrote on Jul 15, 2009 1:14 PM:

    " The hockey program that only the well-off can afford? My husband and his brothers grew up playing hockey here in Williston and came from a family that wasn't well-off. We have our children going through the program now and we are not well-off. I know many hard working families who have their children in the hockey program that are not well-off. While it isn't cheap to play, it is nothing compared to what parents in other states pay for ice time. In southern states, parents pay THOUSANDS per season just for ice. And that's thousands per family. I've also heard swim team fees here are high too. It's a matter of priority and those of us who have kids that want to play, we make do and invest in our children and the rewards we reap are worth every penny spent. "

    sic of taxes wrote on Jul 14, 2009 4:48 PM:

    " Lifetime res, reread my post. I was commenting to the pool when it was being used. Also do you remember the hockey program which only the well off could afford to enroll their children in? "

    bball 87 wrote on Jul 14, 2009 1:59 PM:

    " I have to agree with Billy, I would be in favor of the Herald not even having these boards, they just breed negativity. It gives people a chance to complain about everything with no obligation to ever help improve the thing they are whining about because no one knows who they are. In my opinion, just as people who don't vote don't have the right to complain about the government, people who don't volunteer don't have the right to criticize much of anything. An outsider's view with no idea the challenges and obstacles the organizations face is all they know.

    Pathetic "

    Agreed wrote on Jul 14, 2009 12:30 PM:

    " Billy, You are assuming that the people posting on here have nothing to do with the Parks and Rec and have no fact to base their posts on. I have held a membership there for over 13 years and have had two kids go through their programs. And in that 13+ years I have seen more and more money go to them through my own checkbook but yet not seen much improvement in the services I have gotten or improvement in the building or equipment. I know for a fact that most of the baseball players have purchased their own helmets and bats not to mention their own catcher equipment from top to bottom. The younger girls don’t even have catchers equipment. They have a helmet and that is it. My daughter comes home with welts on her shins all the time because there are no shin pads, not mention no knee saver pads for them to use. So out of that $240,000.00 quote to fund JUST the baseball program (of which my son is involved) you would think that just some of that money would be spent on the younger kids in the program for new equipment to keep the kids save behind the plate and not have helmet with no or broken buckles, shin pads that are broken, and batters helmets that have padding in them so it doesn’t fly off their head when they run. There are basketballs upstairs that look like ones my grandfather would have use and most of them are flat. The machines in the weight room are in need of some maintenance and lubrication or something. You don’t even have to have any weight on them and they are hard to pull and use. There hasn’t been water in the locker rooms on the arena side for a number of years I think. It is hard to serve consessions there for any kind of an event as the kitchen area and equipment in so old. It seems to me that there has been nothing done since the building was built and no ongoing maintenance or upgrades have happened since and now everything is in such bad shape it is going to cost a lot of money to fix the problems. I will continue to give them my money year after year simply because there is no other choice when it comes to summer activities and even though the indoor pool is not part of the membership anymore and requires a separate membership through the pool. Yes the people that work there are wonderful, Cathy rocks!!! She is so helpful and my kids love her when they would go there. Darren seems great from what I have seen him with the kids. Jeremy is great with the kids even with everything that he is trying to do and is in charge of. Sherm – well he needs a hug. So just don’t assume that we don’t know what we are talking about and need to get involved, some of us are and are still at a loss and are confused for how things are going. "

    billy wrote on Jul 13, 2009 12:26 PM:

    " TJ and others who like to bash people...
    did you know the parks and rec has many programs...girls fastpitch, kids in the park, swimming lessons, volleyball, softball, soccer, football, basketball, tennis, track, cross country, youth golf....etc etc...

    do some research before you post. It is not about baseball only. They have 200+ kids in the baseball program(which the baseball committe raises funds to help pay for i.e. Raffles and fundraisers) ....150+ kids in the girls Fastpitch program...Tennis, golf and football are all programs that are growing rapidly.....Just called them and asked ...they were more than willing to give me what I asked for....wasnt hard to do...

    Looks to me that they spend money on other recreation programs and not just a white ball with stitches for boys.

    What about parks...do you want them green? have to water them (that costs $ also) do you want them clean (short staffed already I know)....but they try... I saw the Director on July 4th picking up trash at the park...

    where are all the people that support the parks and rec? why is this board just about complaints...less than 1% of the people post and they always bash the public entities...

    School, PR, City, County, Vector...they never do enough for you do they?

    GIVE ME A BREAK!
    Billy "

    life resident wrote on Jul 12, 2009 8:27 AM:

    " I would like to respond to the person commenting on the Raymond Center.It is the most affordable recreation location in town, with annual fees almost half of what is quoted by that person.I know for a fact that they try to keep the fees reasonable and affordable to everyone by keeping their expenses down.No extravagance here.Most people dont realize that.It isnt their fees that keep people away, its the change in peoples interests locally for this type of recreation. I am sure most people are'nt even aware of all the options the building has for the people of Williston. I have never met nicer or more accomodating staff anywhere else.Its a shame people ignore this resource bargain. "

    sic of taxes wrote on Jul 9, 2009 2:58 PM:

    " Call it bashing or whatever. At least some of the community are concerned about where there taxes go. Maybe the Park board should reply to a few of these posts. Tax hikes arent the answer every time funds are low. Maybe an audit is is order, for instance where is the money going that the district does generate? The golf course for example, I remember back in the 80s i couldnt afford using it because of the high green fees.I find it hard to beilieve the course cant generate enough money to keep up its driving range or housing for carts which they charge for storage. Raymond Center.. which i doubt half the community even uses? I remember when it had the pool, $300.00 a yr for a season pass, back then only the well to do could use it. Give us a break "

    Agreed wrote on Jul 9, 2009 2:18 PM:

    " I do have to agree with the baseball comment of TJ's. Baseball is a great sport for youth to play in the summertime to keep them out of trouble and to learn responsibilty and teamwork. However the $240,00.00 quote that was in the raffle ticket letter sent out by the parks and rec as the amont need to fund the baseball program in Williston seems extreme. "

    billy wrote on Jul 9, 2009 9:48 AM:

    " Once again...bash parks and rec...why not go talk to them. I am sure they would welcome your input.

    At least they are thinking outside the box....hmmm...lets see...

    They could just ask for the 1cent sales tax...but no...they are looking at ways to decrease the mill levy...which would decrease your property taxes in Williston....for out of town people they want to give back in the form of grants....

    At least they are thinking about you and ways to help vs just adding a sales tax...

    Give it time...look into it...ask questions before posting and attacking them....I hear every day...this is bad and this is broken...they are trying to find a way to make things better for you and your kids...and the kids out of town....not such a bad concept in my mind!

    Might just be a great thing for Williston and the surrounding area!

    Billy "

    TJ wrote on Jul 9, 2009 6:35 AM:

    " Instead of spending so much on boys baseball, the park district could rework its budget. If it is not white, stitched and round, it is not a park or recreation. "

    sic of taxes wrote on Jul 8, 2009 9:38 AM:

    " New area slogan should be "Welcome to Williston ND, Tax Capital of the State" "

    Al wrote on Jul 7, 2009 10:32 PM:

    " I don't believe in voting in favor of new taxes. I find it immoral to impose my will on my neighbor. If I want better playground equipment, I will donate to a charity or something. Using government force to extract taxes from my neighbor for things that I want isn't very neighborly. "

    Paul Johansen wrote on Jul 7, 2009 9:56 AM:

    " Hmmmm. If we don't "renew" (to avoid "semantics" the tax we won't have enough money. Yet the same article says if it passes the mill levy will drop. Which is it? If we won't have enough money without the tax, why can the mill rate drop with the tax?

    I have lived in Williston for ten years and have yet to see a new expenditure opposed by the Herald. School tax, sales tax, new mosquito control taxes (the last increase really helped, didn't it)? On and on. I wonder when common sense will hit? "

    Resident wrote on Jul 7, 2009 1:05 AM:

    " What the Park board has decided is this isnt a new tax". I see, so this tax for the Park District is new, But then again not because its just not called Williston Public School District tax anymore....Twist it all you want but New tax. When this 1 cent set to expire 10 yr.s? I guess we wont be needing a 1 cent tax for Public Schools in the next decade. "

    Headward wrote on Jul 6, 2009 3:50 PM:

    " So if I pay off my car loan of $400/month. Then get a boat at $400/month, wouldn't that be a new loan or payment? "

    FrstKnt wrote on Jul 5, 2009 11:32 AM:

    " It is somewhat ironic that this article appears today, the day after Independence Day. When the original Patriots declared independence and fought a war, one of the rallying cries was the issue of taxation without representation.

    Fast forward 233 years...and not much has changed. The entire region is already paying for a Junior High School for Williston. Do we use this building? The answer is no, we do not. Our kids do not attend school there, they attend school in our own schools, for which WE ARE ALREADY PAYING!!!

    Now Grondahl and the park board want a new sales tax to pay for the Parks and Recreation in Williston. We have our own parks and recreation for which WE ARE ALREADY PAYING!!!

    Trying to tell us it is not a new tax is bogus. Nice sales job...no really, nice sales job. The fact is that the current sales tax is set to end when the bonding for the junior high school is paid. Therefore, at that time, the sales tax would be 6.5% in Williston. By passing this new tax, the tax would remain at 7.5%.

    While the overall rate would remain the same, the tax dollars raised have a new purpose. Therefore, it's a new tax.

    Yes, it's all a matter of semantics.

    I do not live in Williston. I don't use the parks there. The idea of this tax makes me angrier than any I've seen before...I have to pay property taxes to pay for my parks, why shouldn't you folks in Williston pay for your own?

    You want to continue to drive people away from shopping in Williston? Keep trying to make us pay for your projects. Keep taxing us without allowing us to vote on it.

    Amazon.com and Drugstore.com here I come! "

    Keith wrote on Jul 5, 2009 10:51 AM:

    " The thought that this isn't a new tax is ridiculous. The amount taxed may be the same but the reason for the tax will change, therefore it will be a new tax to the community. We have heard what they will use the money for but what we haven't heard yet is why they need it. Poor decision making? Bad budgeting? No money generated memberships or sign ups for leagues? What is the reason the Parks and Rec. is asking for a tax increase (bailout)? "

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