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No smoking in the car, please

By Alta Mayhugh
Staff writer
Published/Last Modified on Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:39 PM CDT



Courtesy photo Williston Middle School students met Gov. John Hoeven on their trip to the state capital to testify for Senate Bill 2070, no smoking in a vehicle where children or teens under the age of 16 are present. Students attending, in no particular order, were Dreysyn Bratcher, Austin Anderson, Keely Kleven, Samantha Miller, Hailey Bendixson, Sydney Hauz, Shelby Nelsen, Kaitlin Zuther, Tristen Slapnicka and Drew Borseth. They are pictured with sixth-grade teacher Nancy Selby, who worked with them on the bill when they were in her class last year.
Four Williston Middle School students are confident a smoking ban is going to pass in the North Dakota House.

The process thus far, including testifying in Bismarck, has been “really nerve-wracking,” said seventh-grader Hailey Bendixson.

“When you testify, you don’t know what will happen. I think the bill will pass because it’s a good law,” Bendixson said.

Seventh-graders Austin Anderson, Keely Kleven and Drew Borseth also believe the bill will pass.

“I had some friends think it wouldn’t pass; we’ve gotten this far. I think it is a great bill,” Borseth said. “It passed in the Senate with pretty high numbers,” Kleven said.

“It’s personal to me, and I believe it will pass,” Anderson said.

The bill makes it illegal to smoke in a vehicle if someone younger than 16 is inside. The ban applies if the vehicle is parked on private property, and it would still be a violation if its windows were rolled down. Violators of the law would face a $50 fine, states an Associated Press article.

The students began working on the smoking ban legislation last year when they were in Nancy Selby’s sixth-grade class at Rickard Elementary. The issue was among a variety of issues students researched for a business-letter writing and persuasive-writing portion of the language arts course, Selby said.

While working on their projects, the students needed to find the correct people to contact regarding the issues. Some of the students chose the smoking-ban issue and wrote to Sen. Stan Lyson, R-Williston.

Lyson wrote back and visited the class to talk to it about the issue, Selby said. He encouraged the students to talk to their parents about the issue and get their opinions. Lyson later returned to the class and the students asked him to draft the bill, she said.

On Jan. 22, the students traveled to Bismarck to testify for Senate Bill 2070 before the Senate, and it ultimately passed. On March 12, they testified before the House. They’ve enjoyed the experience of being at the state capital.

“It was a blast, it was fun. I like the feeling that we were little business people,” Anderson said.

Borseth is excited he had the opportunity to shake hands with Gov. John Hoeven, and Kleven enjoyed the bus rides and tour of the capitol building.

Last Thursday, Selby heard from Rep. Gary Sukut, R-Williston, that the bill came out of committee with a 7-6 do not pass recommendation. The bill eventually goes to the House floor for a vote, she said.
 

Comments

    Headward wrote on Apr 2, 2009 2:35 PM:

    " There is no evidence that second hand smoke causes more deaths. A federal court has thrown out the study by the EPA that it overstated the effects of second hand smoke.

    There was a world health study that said second hand smoke does not statsically increase lung cancer deaths. Being around second hand smoke will make it from 10:1,000,000 to 12.5:1,000,000 although you'll hear that it's an increase of 25% chance although it's statistically irreventant.

    I'll state it that I hate smoke and smokers but I love my country and freedoms. The problem is that there is not sufficient evidence for second hand smoke. We don't have a right to breathe clean air in somebody else's property. Nowhere in the constitution has that defined nor does the laws of the land. We just assume and take rights away.



    I would like people to think if we imposed that if the government thought you were to fat that you would need to ban all fast food and soft drinks. Because I have a ‘right’ not have to look at fat people. When I see somebody that is overweight I become very depressed and that is a serious health issue.

    I think a better solution would be to arrest pregnant women that smoke/drink for child abuse and attempted murder./s

    There are bigger issues for our expensive politicians need to debate this legislation that takes rights from the people and gives more control to the government. "

    FrstKnt wrote on Mar 30, 2009 10:57 AM:

    " Good for those school kids for standing up for THEIR rights! Good parents to not smoke in the car with kids present, but unfortunately, not all parents and other smokers are as considerate! These kids have used their voice, by going to the legislature and asking the legislature to protect their RIGHT to good health! Yes, our soldiers are fighting to protect our rights...but kudos to these kids for fighting to protect theirs! "

    Hillary wrote on Mar 30, 2009 10:49 AM:

    " Everyone is taking sides on this issue, but no one is trying to find a solution. Well my sister and I may have found one. Here it is and this info is for smokers and non-smokers alike. Look into electronic cigarettes. Harmful second hand smoke is deleted with this product. In the uk smoking laws are much more stricked and electronic cigarettes are used there to help with the issue of second hand smoke. YES it will take some time and reserch to find the best brand of electronic cigarettes, but the benifits of no more second hand smoke is worth it don't you think? "

    headward wrote on Mar 27, 2009 8:18 PM:

    " I believe the next thing Nancy Selby should teach the students is about the founding fathers and the Constitution.

    Let's stop this un-Constitutional bill in it's tracks. "

    Karen Overson Perritte wrote on Mar 27, 2009 3:59 PM:

    " I just want to say Congratulations to the kids and Mrs. Selby for taking the initiative to make a change. Hailey is my niece and I know she is passionate about what she believes. We could not be more proud of her and the efforts of her classmates. I hope the bill passes. Children need to be protected and this bill is a step in the right direction. "

    Mike R. wrote on Mar 27, 2009 2:22 PM:

    " If teachers are going to get their young students involved with projects involving submitting bills to the legislature, give them a subject likely to pass so they are not discouraged after having worked so hard.

    You can't legislate common sense or respect. This bill has no chance of passing. "

    What Next wrote on Mar 27, 2009 1:51 PM:

    " Laws,laws and more laws. What next? Are we going to monitor the homes of these children too? As an ex smoker I can tell you a law against smoking in a car is not going to prevent these children from being exposed to cigarette smoke. The power of that addiction is tremendous. Educate parents and educate children as to the dangers of cigarette smoking. It took me awhile to heed the advice of my doctor but eventually I listened. But another law imposing on our personal freedoms? Forget it! "

    Reality wrote on Mar 27, 2009 12:14 PM:

    " Bravo to these kids for standing up for themselves. Someone has to because obviously the adults in their lives aren’t going to. It’s not about liberties and personal freedoms when a behavior is unhealthy. You do not have the right to subject someone to an activity that is harmful to them. You do not have liberties and personal freedoms without responsibilities. If people could be responsible for the actions they take, this obviously wouldn’t be an issue.

    Second hand smoke, aka passive smoking has absolutely been proven to be a carcinogen. Google it. "

    Concerned wrote on Mar 26, 2009 11:20 PM:

    " How do we find out about voting on this bill? I am a smoker but have respect for my children and grandchildren and husband not to smoke in the vehicle or in our home. I also respect the non smokers as it is there choice not to smoke just much as it is mine to smoke. I think the non smokers out there should respect our choice as well the smokers should respect theres. I am not for this bill, I also believe it is just another step closer to losing all our freedoms.I do commend the Teachers and the children involved with something getting them involved, and the gratification that comes from these youngsters accomplishing something .. But I do believe they should have touched on something that isn't really so sensitive. We have men and woman fighting for our freedom and we have school kids taking them away. WOW "

    Bill wrote on Mar 25, 2009 6:07 AM:

    " This bill may have good intentions but do you really want the government telling you what you can and can't do? I for one do not. You people need to take on the resposibility of being able to do the right thing. We need less government not more. "

    Congrats wrote on Mar 24, 2009 6:37 PM:

    " Although I do not much agree with this bill, I believe the kids that are involved with this, along with Mrs. Selby deserve a big congratulations. It is great for teachers to get children involved in the government at an early age.
    I am kind of on the fence on this issue, though. On one hand, I think it is a great thing to have for children as they don't have a choice of whether or not to get into the vehicle with a smoker. On the other hand, it is taking another freedom away. I just don't know how far this is going to go-pretty soon we won't have any freedoms. "

    annie wrote on Mar 24, 2009 3:25 PM:

    " This is, I believe, an invation of privacy as well as taking another bite out of our personal freedoms. Even though I do strongly agree that NO ONE should smoke when there are any minors present, it is OUR responsibility as the adults to act in every way to protect their health and be good role models for our children. "

    herewegoagain.... wrote on Mar 24, 2009 1:24 PM:

    " obesity also kills, and look at all the young kids out there, whose parents still take them out for fast food, let them sit in front of a video game all day, and technically "assist" obesity into adulthood, which also brings on enormous health problems, which in essence, the majority of the american public help pay these medical bills! I agree, where do you stop? This is just "one" example of health issues that plague the american public. Again, it is the choices we make! Chose to make good ones! "

    non smoker for life wrote on Mar 24, 2009 12:56 PM:

    " I think it's sad that we even need to have a law such as this. We now know the dangerous effects of smoking, yet many still smoke and smoke in front of their children. We have children coming to school that just reek of cigarette smoke. Some of the other kids make comments and some are embarrassed because they smell. They didn't ask to live with that. Why should they have to? "

    FrstKnt wrote on Mar 24, 2009 11:37 AM:

    " 40 years ago we did not have the information on smoking and second-hand smoke that we have now. I don't care how many people on here try to sell their garbage about having no proof that second hand smoke is bad for you - IT IS! Everyone knows it. Some people try to delude themselves that it isn't. Sorry, the evidence is out there. Even big tobacco admits it!

    As for this bill, it is a bit of a slippery slope. Banning smoking in cars with children present is only one step from banning smoking in homes with children present. I would hope given the evidence that smokers would choose to go outside on their own, but it doesn't always happen. Then it becomes a question as to society's responsibility to protect the children who are not protected by their parents/guardians/etc.

    Therefore, I support the bill by a hair...protecting children who have no other choice overrides the infringement on personal choice...because some smokers are not responsible enough to take it outside on their own. "

    people please think wrote on Mar 24, 2009 12:44 AM:

    " This sounds to me like prohibition laws in the 20's except now the subject is cigaretts. "

    Headward wrote on Mar 23, 2009 4:20 PM:

    " "Do we have a right to inflict our habits on others? No we don't!" --adultasthma

    I agree that adults should not be smoking around children but it's not the job of the state to do change that. If it was truely for the children then they would have made it the same penality as child abuse. All this bill does is elimate our freedoms and stop all over our liberties. It has to be changed through education and prevention in the first place. This bill is infringe on everybody's right to smoke in their car.

    We've got to look what's the next step they could take:

    I say if we’re going to ban smoking in cars because of health risks, we better require to wear helmets everywhere we go. I’d hate for somebody to slip and fall and bump their head.

    Let’s also remove all carpet. Carpet holds a lot of dirt and dust. Some people have really bad allergies and they have a right to breathe clean carpet-free air.

    While we’re at it, let’s make all food services serve koser food for jews. I would hate to think how racist we are because these places are serving unclean food.

    We should also make people wear silver one-piece jump suits. And shave all the hair on our heads. That way I know I won’t have a chance of getting flees or lice from other people.

    This might be an extreme but 40 years ago to ban smoking in a store, bar, etc. would be considered unheard of and un-american. Now we're moving closer to banning smoking in your own home.

    Stop this nanny-state bill. This bill could be argued as unconstitutional. I am against this bill because I am for freedom and liberties. "

    respectingrights wrote on Mar 23, 2009 3:45 PM:

    " I agree with headward, I am a smoker, however, I respect non-smokers, as I do not smoke if it bothers them, whether in my car or in otherwise enclosed spaces. But to have the government take away, yet another freedom in the name of "reform", I don't agree with. These kids are doing a wonderful thing by "getting involved", which is what we want to do, and that is inspire our youth! Parents should know better, as well as the rest of the general public, that a person shouldn't smoke in an enclosed place with a youth. That is common sense, use it. "

    adultasthma wrote on Mar 23, 2009 2:17 PM:

    " I for one appreciate what these kids are doing because my parents smoked in our vehicles and I have developed adult onset asthma from those grueling car rides full of smoke! Do we have a right to inflict our habits on others? No we don't! I think its a good bill. "

    Headward wrote on Mar 23, 2009 10:53 AM:

    " This is encouraging to see young people to be involved with the law making process. I do not smoke, nor do I like smoke.

    I do have a problem with this bill though. This bill will take personal freedoms and liberities from the people and gives them to the state. The state has overstepped with the the ban on smoking in private establishments. The jury(no evidense) is still out on second hand smoke being a health problem for anybody.

    The real problem with the bill is that we're transferring personally responibilty to the government. My car is my personal property. If we're going to restrict on my private property, why don't we ban it? It's because the state takes in over $27 million a year in just state taxes.

    Let your reps know that you want your freedoms and liberties and to vote no on this bill. "

    Thankful wrote on Mar 22, 2009 8:08 AM:

    " I am thankful for your work. Great Job!! "

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